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Suffering from insomnia. Tips and help.

I suffer from insomnia since school days. For weeks I can barely sleep 2-3 hours at night. I get sleep only when everything in my life is going fine.


When I have office work left for the next day I cant sleep at all. Even if I finish my part for the day till 10-11 pm and things are left to discuss with co-workers the next day I cant sleep.

Office work and activities keep running through my head even in subconscious state. Then after 2-3 hours I get nightmares and my heart is pounding a lot. I try to take deep breath and sleep but by then its over. I cant sleep again.

I tried psychiatrists but in India they are businessmen in disguise. No help. I dont want to depend on medicines.

I work out daily. I get up in the morning early and go to bed at the right time. I dont watch a lot of TV and have a healthy diet. Sometimes I think I should just get out of this city life and start living in Himalayas or something. But even that is not possible for us middle class people with a lot of stress and no financial backing.
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you get nightmares and are disturbed by sub-conscious thoughts - tune koyi chutiaap kiya hoga... did you rape or molest anybody? why is your conscience eating you from inside? did you cause harm to anybody?

koyi chori ki hai?

i see people around me suffering from similar issues... just because they took some wrong steps and are now unable to cope with the consequences. they can't sleep at night!

doctors can't treat you, unless you come out clean.

medical doctors can treat only those who can't have deep sleep because of some medical issues.

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I suffer from insomnia since school days. For weeks I can barely sleep 2-3 hours at night. I get sleep only when everything in my life is going fine.


When I have office work left for the next day I cant sleep at all. Even if I finish my part for the day till 10-11 pm and things are left to discuss with co-workers the next day I cant sleep.

Office work and activities keep running through my head even in subconscious state. Then after 2-3 hours I get nightmares and my heart is pounding a lot. I try to take deep breath and sleep but by then its over. I cant sleep again.

I tried psychiatrists but in India they are businessmen in disguise. No help. I dont want to depend on medicines.

I work out daily. I get up in the morning early and go to bed at the right time. I dont watch a lot of TV and have a healthy diet. Sometimes I think I should just get out of this city life and start living in Himalayas or something. But even that is not possible for us middle class people with a lot of stress and no financial backing.
1. Are u a workaholic? 2. Do u hv a high sexual desire? Jerk a lot if u dont get to fuck... 3. Do u have ideas of grandiosity...imagining urself to be much more than what u actually are in terms of wealth and so many other things....? 4. Do u plan grand commercial ideas in ur mind....? 5. Do u go on a shopping spree somtimes even buying things u dont need? 6. Do u ignore ur personal needs when it comes to meeting office deadlines...? 7. Do u spend late hours at ur workplace without reason? 8. Do u find faults in other human beings most of the time? 9. Do u see the glass half full most of the time? 10. Difficult to make friends? 11. Difficult to adjust with other humans including family members? 12. Irritated by even minor things and even things like maids hanging around ur house ..LOL? 13. Obsessed by doing things in a particular way only...? 14. Obsessed about travelling in particular routes only? 16. Gambling streak? 17. Difficult to love a female but ready to fuck one if opportunity presents itself and then say bye without any emotion....? 18. U walk fast u talk fast u do things fast fast.... 19. U delve deep into other people's statements and find hidden meanings in them? 20. U can get into a raving crazy mode and very abusive with raves and rants if provoked....? 21. Unihibited sometimes without a care for people around u...? 22. U love lonely places, hideouts...and like ur privacy...? 23. U snack in the middle of the night....? 24. Have particular fixation about certain types of females or female body parts...? Phew...... Your energy ecosystem (not the physical body) is haywire....U need to get a hold on it.... A psychiatrist can manage ur chemical locha in ur brain but that is for lifetime..... Try some other processes such as Yoga...under a honest guide.......not a rogue... It will be difficult initially coz u cannot be still and u need to fidget.... But give it a try...it is worthwhile... Once u r done with this....get a homely girl and get married ....It will calm u down.... A man is not complete without his opposite and a woman is not complete without her opposite....

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you get nightmares and are disturbed by sub-conscious thoughts - tune koyi chutiaap kiya hoga... did you rape or molest anybody? why is your conscience eating you from inside? did you cause harm to anybody?

koyi chori ki hai?

i see people around me suffering from similar issues... just because they took some wrong steps and are now unable to cope with the consequences. they can't sleep at night!

doctors can't treat you, unless you come out clean.

medical doctors can treat only those who can't have deep sleep because of some medical issues.

Nightmares are about accidents or theft etc. heart starts pounding. Other sub conscious thoughts are like incidents being repeated in your head that happened in your childhood or school etc. embarrassing things etc. this is a common phenomenon.

like one time u fell in class and everybody started laughing. vo kahin se khayaal aa jata hai. this is just an example... mine are weirder. fir neend hi nahi aate. ek ke upar ek dimaag ghumta rehta hai.

wrong steps etc is related to stress of present situation. and past as well. past cannot be changed. to abhi ki kharab haalat pra hi stress hota hai.
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1. Are u a workaholic? 2. Do u hv a high sexual desire? Jerk a lot if u dont get to fuck... 3. Do u have ideas of grandiosity...imagining urself to be much more than what u actually are in terms of wealth and so many other things....? 4. Do u plan grand commercial ideas in ur mind....? 5. Do u go on a shopping spree somtimes even buying things u dont need? 6. Do u ignore ur personal needs when it comes to meeting office deadlines...? 7. Do u spend late hours at ur workplace without reason? 8. Do u find faults in other human beings most of the time? 9. Do u see the glass half full most of the time? 10. Difficult to make friends? 11. Difficult to adjust with other humans including family members? 12. Irritated by even minor things and even things like maids hanging around ur house ..LOL? 13. Obsessed by doing things in a particular way only...? 14. Obsessed about travelling in particular routes only? 16. Gambling streak? 17. Difficult to love a female but ready to fuck one if opportunity presents itself and then say bye without any emotion....? 18. U walk fast u talk fast u do things fast fast.... 19. U delve deep into other people's statements and find hidden meanings in them? 20. U can get into a raving crazy mode and very abusive with raves and rants if provoked....? 21. Unihibited sometimes without a care for people around u...? 22. U love lonely places, hideouts...and like ur privacy...? 23. U snack in the middle of the night....? 24. Have particular fixation about certain types of females or female body parts...? Phew...... Your energy ecosystem (not the physical body) is haywire....U need to get a hold on it.... A psychiatrist can manage ur chemical locha in ur brain but that is for lifetime..... Try some other processes such as Yoga...under a honest guide.......not a rogue... It will be difficult initially coz u cannot be still and u need to fidget.... But give it a try...it is worthwhile... Once u r done with this....get a homely girl and get married ....It will calm u down.... A man is not complete without his opposite and a woman is not complete without her opposite....
1. Are u a workaholic?
Sort of. I am more obessive than workaholic. i dont want to stay in office for more than working hours. i try to run away from work. but when i get something to do im obsessed with it. i want to sit and complete it in one go. any delay makes me anxious. if something isnt completed that day then i can never sleep. that is guaranteed. whether im unable to understand some requirement or whether i need more input from team members/user... that kind of delay i cant sleep with it.

2. Do u hv a high sexual desire?
Im 29 years old. I have no sexual desire when i see others. i am addicted to porn and sexting with women online. but im not that horny. i have had gfs. but wasnt in rape mode. i do jerk off almost everyday

3. Do u have ideas of grandiosity...imagining urself to be much more than what u actually are in terms of wealth and so many other things....?
No. i dont run after money. i dont own a car. dont invest. i have a simple life.

4. Do u plan grand commercial ideas in ur mind....?
No. even survival is not that important to me.


5. Do u go on a shopping spree somtimes even buying things u dont need?
That is subjective. satisfaction in life has no limit. we couldve been satisfied as cave men as well. surviving on nature in grass clothing.

6. Do u ignore ur personal needs when it comes to meeting office deadlines...?
no. i have a set schedule and i am obsessed with it. i like to go out at the same time and come back home at the same time. i want to work out 1-2 hours a day.

7. Do u spend late hours at ur workplace without reason?
I have done that. but after a lot of pressure n protest from managers.

8. Do u find faults in other human beings most of the time?
Yes. but genuine faults. like literring, spitting, corruption, bad behavior, bad morals/principles


9. Do u see the glass half full most of the time?
absolutely not. very negative in life.

10. Difficult to make friends?
No. I talk to strangers a lot when im sitting with them. sustaining friendship is difficult for me. to be honest your parents/siblings (blood) are your true friends. rest everyone else is acquaintance. they are with you as long as u guys are in same social circle or vicinity. and no one is taking a bullet for you.

11. Difficult to adjust with other humans including family members?
I have lived almost in solitary confinement. So adjusting would be difficult. but im also dependent on others for a lot of things. so cant survive independently.

12. Irritated by even minor things and even things like maids hanging around ur house ..LOL?
That wasnt a minor thing. screaming and howling going on in the afternoon and when you can barely hear telephone calls and them littering the lane near ur place with banana peels etc being thrown near ur house is annoying.

13. Obsessed by doing things in a particular way only...?
Yes

14. Obsessed about travelling in particular routes only?
Yes

16. Gambling streak?
Dont gamble. dont drink. dont smoke. dont party. dont socialize. barely active on fb. not in contact with school/college mates.

17. Difficult to love a female but ready to fuck one if opportunity presents itself and then say bye without any emotion....?
At this point in time everything is a headache. i do love a woman and she loves me but i run away from her a lot. and come back. not interested in fucking either way.

18. U walk fast u talk fast u do things fast fast....
Yes


19. U delve deep into other people's statements and find hidden meanings in them?
Sometimes. Im quick to judge so not a lot of time is spent pondering over what they meant


20. U can get into a raving crazy mode and very abusive with raves and rants if provoked....?
No. I get really angry and abusive when i see something wrong happening. like people driving fast ready to hit others. people sitting on the floor of the train when it says not to. disobeying laws and common social rules.


21. Unihibited sometimes without a care for people around u...?
Not really. I dont break rules. I am straight and do the right thing.

22. U love lonely places, hideouts...and like ur privacy...?
No. I like streets and lanes. exploring how people live. I like privacy yes.

23. U snack in the middle of the night....?
If I cant sleep and end up surfing the web. or after masturbating.

24. Have particular fixation about certain types of females or female body parts...?
Well the kind of woman i like is of a certain type, body wise etc. yes. but in real life i dont look at women in potential partner sense. who am i to think how they should be when im not myself mr 100%

Tried several psychiatrists, meds, psychologists, counselors, phone helplines etc. Many bad experiences. In short they are businessmen that go hmm hmm acha ok.. then what did you... ok ok... why do you think that happened. 5 minutes talk and 1500 rupees. come next week. when no solution or guidance is provided and they are conditioning a diseased persons brain to figure life out themselves... then im sorry i cant go through that silly procedure for years. In western world they atleast give 50 minutes to a patient. here there are more lines in these clinics (shocking) than general doctors... and even here indians are going... can i go first please? shes old... let her go first. bullshit.

Dont have patience for yoga and meditation. I do work out but that is just for the body not the mind. Marriage comes with responsibilities. Right now in single life to avoid stress you can say FUCK YOU to your manager n company and go do any other job. but once ur married u cant. Plus there are fake cases of dowry n harrassment... and divorce alimony etc things that are happening so cant trust anyone.glgl
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recently i heard a discussion regarding this problem on a talk show.
along with many other reasons , one of the most striking reason was easily available internet and television - 24x7 . for teens and kids. but i think , adults are equally addicted to these things. its better to get to rid of this addiction.you may take help of a psychologist if needed.
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It's all psychological u must admit
U can take tips from all here but in the end it's you who have to think what's eating u inside, if it pertains to work then you need to know that work will never be finished, u may slog days in office but at the end it's incomplete
If it's personal, u can be specific for that may help us in guiding you
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1. Are u a workaholic?
Sort of. I am more obessive than workaholic. i dont want to stay in office for more than working hours. i try to run away from work. but when i get something to do im obsessed with it. i want to sit and complete it in one go. any delay makes me anxious. if something isnt completed that day then i can never sleep. that is guaranteed. whether im unable to understand some requirement or whether i need more input from team members/user... that kind of delay i cant sleep with it.

2. Do u hv a high sexual desire?
Im 29 years old. I have no sexual desire when i see others. i am addicted to porn and sexting with women online. but im not that horny. i have had gfs. but wasnt in rape mode. i do jerk off almost everyday

3. Do u have ideas of grandiosity...imagining urself to be much more than what u actually are in terms of wealth and so many other things....?
No. i dont run after money. i dont own a car. dont invest. i have a simple life.

4. Do u plan grand commercial ideas in ur mind....?
No. even survival is not that important to me.


5. Do u go on a shopping spree somtimes even buying things u dont need?
That is subjective. satisfaction in life has no limit. we couldve been satisfied as cave men as well. surviving on nature in grass clothing.

6. Do u ignore ur personal needs when it comes to meeting office deadlines...?
no. i have a set schedule and i am obsessed with it. i like to go out at the same time and come back home at the same time. i want to work out 1-2 hours a day.

7. Do u spend late hours at ur workplace without reason?
I have done that. but after a lot of pressure n protest from managers.

8. Do u find faults in other human beings most of the time?
Yes. but genuine faults. like literring, spitting, corruption, bad behavior, bad morals/principles


9. Do u see the glass half full most of the time?
absolutely not. very negative in life.

10. Difficult to make friends?
No. I talk to strangers a lot when im sitting with them. sustaining friendship is difficult for me. to be honest your parents/siblings (blood) are your true friends. rest everyone else is acquaintance. they are with you as long as u guys are in same social circle or vicinity. and no one is taking a bullet for you.

11. Difficult to adjust with other humans including family members?
I have lived almost in solitary confinement. So adjusting would be difficult. but im also dependent on others for a lot of things. so cant survive independently.

12. Irritated by even minor things and even things like maids hanging around ur house ..LOL?
That wasnt a minor thing. screaming and howling going on in the afternoon and when you can barely hear telephone calls and them littering the lane near ur place with banana peels etc being thrown near ur house is annoying.

13. Obsessed by doing things in a particular way only...?
Yes

14. Obsessed about travelling in particular routes only?
Yes

16. Gambling streak?
Dont gamble. dont drink. dont smoke. dont party. dont socialize. barely active on fb. not in contact with school/college mates.

17. Difficult to love a female but ready to fuck one if opportunity presents itself and then say bye without any emotion....?
At this point in time everything is a headache. i do love a woman and she loves me but i run away from her a lot. and come back. not interested in fucking either way.

18. U walk fast u talk fast u do things fast fast....
Yes


19. U delve deep into other people's statements and find hidden meanings in them?
Sometimes. Im quick to judge so not a lot of time is spent pondering over what they meant


20. U can get into a raving crazy mode and very abusive with raves and rants if provoked....?
No. I get really angry and abusive when i see something wrong happening. like people driving fast ready to hit others. people sitting on the floor of the train when it says not to. disobeying laws and common social rules.


21. Unihibited sometimes without a care for people around u...?
Not really. I dont break rules. I am straight and do the right thing.

22. U love lonely places, hideouts...and like ur privacy...?
No. I like streets and lanes. exploring how people live. I like privacy yes.

23. U snack in the middle of the night....?
If I cant sleep and end up surfing the web. or after masturbating.

24. Have particular fixation about certain types of females or female body parts...?
Well the kind of woman i like is of a certain type, body wise etc. yes. but in real life i dont look at women in potential partner sense. who am i to think how they should be when im not myself mr 100%

Tried several psychiatrists, meds, psychologists, counselors, phone helplines etc. Many bad experiences. In short they are businessmen that go hmm hmm acha ok.. then what did you... ok ok... why do you think that happened. 5 minutes talk and 1500 rupees. come next week. when no solution or guidance is provided and they are conditioning a diseased persons brain to figure life out themselves... then im sorry i cant go through that silly procedure for years. In western world they atleast give 50 minutes to a patient. here there are more lines in these clinics (shocking) than general doctors... and even here indians are going... can i go first please? shes old... let her go first. bullshit.

Dont have patience for yoga and meditation. I do work out but that is just for the body not the mind. Marriage comes with responsibilities. Right now in single life to avoid stress you can say FUCK YOU to your manager n company and go do any other job. but once ur married u cant. Plus there are fake cases of dowry n harrassment... and divorce alimony etc things that are happening so cant trust anyone.glgl
Dost...It is a textbook psychiatric condition (I would rather call it a very Particular kind of STATE OF MIND)....Psychiatry is scientific.... I dont want to suggest a diagnosis coz I am just a citizen like u and not a psychiatrist.... Since u do not wish to go the way of psychiatry.... The best way for you is to work on ur state of mind with other ancient processes..... U have no patience for yoga...understandable coz u are a type A personality...no issues.. Do u have faith? I mean the existing religions....Then delve into it seriously and scientifically...not the noise and ritualistic kind... U dont have faith.....Then very humbly may I suggest something.... But before that let me make a disclosure... I HAVE NO FAITH... I DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO ANY FAITH ANY RELIGION ANY GURU ANY BABA ANY WHATEVER.....i do not want to peddle or market anybody.... But recently I hv gotten hooked to some YT videos of a gentleman named Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev....Now i am not a fan of his....and neither do i want to market him....but i found his answers to some questions quite rational logical scientific and not mumbo jumbo.... Check him out ...there are hundreds of videos.....See if he makes sense to you ...and do one of his programs... OR ELSE... Try anybody who has answers to ur questions and follow a regimen ..a process...a sadhana ....TO WORK ON UR STATE OF MIND...TO REPROGRAM IT.... I think u are quite intelligent and knowledgeable enough to understand what i mean.... U GOT TO REPROGRAM UR SOFTWARE....THERE IS NO OTHER WAY.... ELSE U TAKE CHEMICALS FROM PSYCHIATRISTS FOR A LIFETIME.... Do revert back if u hv any questions and if u found some sense in what i am trying to tell u....Glad to be of help anytime...

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