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i don't have an iphone. my understanding is that in apple's design philosophy, they like to exercise lots of control over every aspect of the phone, both hardware and software. some users will like this, those who don't want to bother with what happens "under the hood."

so if apple is going to patch iOS to throttle processor speeds under certain conditions, i'm sure there are many ways to do it. they could write the patch in such a way that users have an option in settings for throttling, where the user could maybe do some amount of configuration for this.

but again, this goes back to their design philosophy of trying to exercise more control over the software and hardware of their devices?

btw, it's not a dying battery that apple is trying to fix. they are trying to fix the situation where the lithiom-ion batteries are not performing at peak and are causing random shutdowns of the device (presumably after going through 700 or 800 or whatever charge cycles).
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Here's my 2 cents worth.

1. Apple is known to control everything (and I mean everything) on their devices. They have control over hardware & software both. The SoCs are designed by them, the software is written by them & what not. They want users to pay for custom ring tones, they want users to pay for headphones & they are brilliant at marketing. They even promote their deficiencies as features (remember the you are not holding it right quip from Steve Jobs during antenna-gate ?)

2. This has been going on since a long long time. After every iOS update the previous gen iPhone gets slower, the even older previous gen iPhone becomes barely usable. As a result users think their phones can't handle the new iOS update & upgrade their phones resulting in more revenue for Apple.

3. Before Apple launched iPhone, in built battery phones were never heard off. Most phones came with replaceable batteries. Now after the popularity of iPhones, even notebooks have started shipping with in-built batteries.

PS : Even Android phones have similar Lithium-ion or Lithium-Polymer batteries but they don't slowdown as much as iPhones do. Wonder why ?

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A very sadness situationality men. I was just about to make some more arguments, but I guess there's no use.


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Don’t Blame Apple For Your Slow iPhone. Blame Apps

Brian Barrett
10.10.17

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Hue and cry about Apple’s “planned obsolescence” has burbled up for years, at one point gracing even the pages of The New York Times Magazine. But a new look at historic iPhone performance data disproves the notion for good. Does your iPhone run a little slower than it used to, just in time for the iPhone 8? Maybe. If you’re blaming Apple, though, you’re barking up the wrong corporate monolith.

The data that disproves any malicious intent on Apple’s part comes from Futuremark, the company behind a popular benchmarking app called 3DMark. The app runs a series of tests that measure your phone's performance.

“The way 3DMark is designed and created is to emulate exactly how a real game would operate,” says Futuremark commerce director Jani Joki. “The methodologies, APIs, and 3-D structures that we use are all done in a way that act like a modern-day game would end up using. It gives you a good prediction of how games would perform on a device.”

That’s important, because gaming stresses your iPhone more than pretty much any other activity. Not only that, but 3DMark actual comprises two tests, one each for your smartphone’s GPU and CPU, to test against both graphics-intensive tasks and those that require heavy-duty physics calculations and the like.

The basic argument: If Apple were purposefully debilitating an older iPhone, that would clearly show up in the 3DMark score. Reader, it didn’t.

In fact, Futuremark’s data set includes hundreds of thousands of benchmarks for seven different iPhone models and three different versions of iOS. You can see a bunch of charts here, and they all show the same thing: GPU performance holds steady on an iPhone 5S, even across three firmware updates. The CPU wavers a skosh, but not enough that you’d notice.

So, your iPhone’s GPU and CPU don’t shrink over time, and especially not at the specific time that iPhones start tumbling off the Foxconn assembly line. You can have faith in that both because of the rigorous Futuremark analysis, and because the planned obsolescence theory never made any sense in the first place.

“The longevity of Apple’s devices is a key reason why their resale value is so high, which in turn is one reason why people keep buying them and handing them down to family members or selling them on when they get new ones,” says Jan Dawson, founder of Jackdaw Research.

For more proof of Apple’s faith in its devices to keep chugging, note that it’ll sell you a brand new—or refurbished—iPhone 6S right now. If it really downshifted devices after a couple of years, why on earth would it be selling you a two-year-old device? If you sell someone a rotten banana today, they’ll shop at the next fruit stand over tomorrow. (Yes, this metaphor assumes multiple competitive fruit stands in close proximity.)

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Your GPU and CPU still work as intended. The problem? You’re asking them to do more.

“When any piece of hardware comes out with a new operating system, then the new version of a popular app can make use of new functionality in a way that it runs well on a the latest device, but is slightly too heavy for the older ones,” says Joki. “You can have this perception that this used to work just fine on my old device, when in reality the app is just doing more work than it did before.”

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It’s frustrating when an iPhone slows down, just like it is when leaves clog your gutters, or your pumpkin spice latte gets cold. And just like those other unfortunate side effects of fall, there’s no underlying conspiracy. It’s just how things work.

Source: https://www.wired.com/story/dont-bla...r-slow-iphone/
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btw, it's not a dying battery that apple is trying to fix. they are trying to fix the situation where the lithiom-ion batteries are not performing at peak and are causing random shutdowns of the device (presumably after going through 700 or 800 or whatever charge cycles).
Normal phone batteries are rated for 5000 cycles before needing change but they rate with with full recharge along with full discharge which rarely happens in real life.

typical battery in smartphones will last 800~1000 cycles with minimal loss which is more than life of a smartphones.

apple is being apple here and coming up with excuses to nudge you to get latest and greatest iphone

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For more proof of Apple’s faith in its devices to keep chugging, note that it’ll sell you a brand new—or refurbished—iPhone 6S right now. If it really downshifted devices after a couple of years, why on earth would it be selling you a two-year-old device?
If it's refurbished then Apple could have replaced the the battery anyway.

If anyone buys a new one iPhone 6s now & then updates iOS to latest version, the user won't notice the slowing down since the phone would be slow from the start itself instead of gradually slowing down. Anyway Apple is now selling it with a discount & not at the same price at which it was initially sold.

My question is that why don't Android phones slow down due to battery concerns ? They have similar batteries & similar cpu's as Apple phones have.

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appul and googil have set their markit.
googil's assdroid,is the worse.
developers look for the markit share they hold currently.
thats what happened to windass phone. os is better to both,yet,wasnt sucksessfool cuz of lower markit share, cuz of which,developers weren't actually willing to make apps.
but bhai log, windass on arm is ganna be a hit! wait for surface phone and my review on it.
however, appil is better optimized for gheymes,when to assdroid.
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There's one thing that's a bit of a puzzle here: the results of the 3DMark benchmarking app (1).

To patch random shutdowns, iOS v10.2.1 was released around Jan 2017. The benchmarking data was collected Apr 2016 thru Sep 2017.

The puzzle is: The results of 3DMark benchmarking don't show any slowdown caused by iOS v10.2.1, when Apple introduced the new power management feature to throttle the processor.

So what's the conclusion here? That the throttling is minimal and not perceptible? That the data set is too small or not a representive sample? Some other factors affecting the benchmarking?

Benchmarking from GeekBench (2) came to a different conclusion: before Apple made its public announcement, Geekbench postulated the slowdown caused by iOS v10.2.1.
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